tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823752770789000278.post935824194806804308..comments2020-01-12T10:36:08.402+08:00Comments on Barangay Saint Christine: To My MessengerMark and Merejenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12929161188263149402noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823752770789000278.post-79137126747851693732010-11-23T11:10:48.913+08:002010-11-23T11:10:48.913+08:00PRETRIB RAPTURE – HIDDEN FACTS !
How can the “rap...PRETRIB RAPTURE – HIDDEN FACTS !<br /><br />How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He is now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. Since Jesus must personally participate in the rapture, and since He can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends, the rapture therefore cannot take place before the end of the trib! Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who would be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which is Israel's posttrib resurrection!) If anyone wonders how long pretrib rapturism has been taught, he or she can Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards.” Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 it was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” ["gathering"] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!). Other Google articles throwing light on long-covered-up facts about the 180-year-old pretrib rapture view include “Famous Rapture Watchers,” “X-Raying Margaret,” "Edward Irving is Unnerving," “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” "Pretrib Rapture Secrecy," and “Deceiving and Being Deceived” – all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” which is available at Armageddon Books online. Just my two cents’ worth.<br /><br />(saw above while netting - Louella)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5823752770789000278.post-37324342478218649132010-11-18T03:57:37.516+08:002010-11-18T03:57:37.516+08:00Hi Mark,
not much to say. I remember the 4th day ...Hi Mark,<br />not much to say. I remember the 4th day laying in bed, all smashed up, hurting, and I told the Lord "thank you for what you are doing in my life. I trust you".<br />The 9th day I was released, "9" means "finality of judgment". That night at home, (the hospital was a 2 hour drive), we made a couch bed where I would be for the next 3-4 weeks, in the fam room.<br />Our bed was upstairs and I could not even walk, let alone stairs.<br />Two dreams were given to me that night.<br />In the first, I was immersed in complete blackness, thick darkness. I heard the voice of God and woke. But I could not recall His Words.<br />I knew it was God.<br />I went back to sleep and dreamed again.<br />THis time I was underwater in beautiful, blue water like around Bermuda. It was not drowning, it was simply deep underwater and the water was clear and blue.<br />There was a yacht-like boat down there, it was white with gold trim, it had some damage.<br />As I pondered it, I thought what a fine boat it was and how it should be on the surface, dried out, and made useable to enjoy.<br />As I watched, the boat began to rise to the surface, stern first., and I heard the voice of the Lord again.<br />"There is only ONE who can restore this operation".<br />It was the same words spoken in the first dream, now I remembered them as they were doubled.<br />Mark,<br />"There is only ONE who can restore YOUR operation".Roryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16810813012270439254noreply@blogger.com